Episodes

Tuesday Feb 23, 2021
Gustavo and Gus Borges- Parents Need to Pretend to be Grandparents
Tuesday Feb 23, 2021
Tuesday Feb 23, 2021
Tudo Bem to Brazilian swimming royalty, with 4-time Olympic medalist, World, and NCAA champion Gustavo Borges and his son, University of Michigan sprinter Gus Borges.
For those who may not have followed swimming in the early 90s, Gustavo Borges was one of the best swimmers in the world. In his first Olympics he came 2nd to Popov in 92 in the 100free, and backed it up 4yrs later in Atlanta with a bronze in the same race. How big of a deal was he? Two more Olympic appearances later he carried the flag for Brazil in the closing ceremonies in Athens. He was the man.
So, what’s it like to be his son and decide you also want to be a swimmer? This conversation should be mandatory listening for all swim parents. It’s a masterclass in how to support your kids to find their passion and if you’re the kid, how to follow in your high-achieving parent’s footsteps without the weight of the world bearing down on you. These guys have been coached by some of the legends of the sport. In 1990 Gustavo moved from BR to the USA to train at the famous Bolles School in Jacksonville Florida under Gregg Troy, then onto Michigan to swim for Jon Urbanchek. When his son Gus eventually became a recruit himself, he was given only one restriction – can’t go to Ohio State. Gus followed in dad’s footsteps to become a Wolverine and swim for Mike Bottom.
Needless to say, they’ve picked up quite a few useful lessons along the way, and this conversation, is all about them.
Hope you enjoy it. Here’s father and son, Gustavo and Gus Borges.
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Friday Feb 19, 2021
Coleman Stewart doesn't set time based goals
Friday Feb 19, 2021
Friday Feb 19, 2021
Do you ever watch a really fast swimmer and think “wow, how do they do that?”
In this episode, we get to talk to one of them. Coleman Stewart. He’s one of the best underwater kickers in the world, proven as an NCAA champion in the 100 backstroke, and from recently stacking up backstroke wins this past season in the International Swim League. It’s no wonder Jason Lezak texted him the night the NCAA Championships got cancelled due to COVID recruiting him to the Cali Condors - he’s a stud in the short course pool and of course became a huge asset for the eventual ISL champions.
The Olympics however are long course, so we discuss his strategy for getting on the team, but not before nerding out on what makes Coleman so lightning fast underwater, and also hearing what’s in the special sauce that brought his college team NC State back to national prominence.
He’s such a down to earth guy. Felt like we were really talking to the person, not the swimmer. Super fun conversation. Hope you enjoy it.

Wednesday Feb 17, 2021
Marco Koch is ready for 99% of anything in Swimming
Wednesday Feb 17, 2021
Wednesday Feb 17, 2021
Triple World Champion Marco Koch tore up Season 2 of the ISL. He is a favorite to win the 200 Breast Olympic Gold Medal based on his recent form. Or is he? This is a packed event, but also an event waiting for that break through. What is Marco doing to be that star in Tokyo?

Friday Feb 12, 2021
Why don't you play basketball or football? Giles Smith joins the show.
Friday Feb 12, 2021
Friday Feb 12, 2021
Swimming has a diversity problem, so we spent some time getting Giles's perspective on how to bring the black and brown communities into swimming, addressing pool access and water safety, while also hearing about the historical swimmers of color that have inspired Giles and countless others to dream.
Giles is proof that sports don’t have to define you – he works in real estate, but he’s found the harmony to get the best out of both aspects of his professional life.
Of course, we get in deep on butterfly technique and training, and also some race strategies he’s working on like going no breath at the end of the 100 fly long-course. After a couple years of retirement, Giles is back swimming at the top of his game and doing it with a refreshingly peaceful and positive attitude that will surely leave an indelible mark on the young swimmers he’s inspiring.
Hope you enjoy. Here’s our chat with Giles Smith.

Friday Feb 05, 2021
Béryl Gastadello Worked for Her Success
Friday Feb 05, 2021
Friday Feb 05, 2021
The Queen B herself, our guest today is LA Current Superstar and French National Teamer Beryl Gastaldello. You know her as one of the most versatile swimmers on the planet. After bursting onto the world scene with her breakthrough 2019 season in the International Swim League, Beryl came back in 2020 to one up herself and put the world on notice with a dominant season culminating with a 4th place overall finish in the league MVP standings.
Her seemingly rapid ascent to the upper echelon of swimming may have turned a lot of heads, but it was no surprise to her. She’s goofy and brings the laughs, but don’t be fooled by her lighthearted demeanor. When she speaks about her training and what she plans to achieve, it’s with such voracity and intentionality that when you hear her say it, you not only believe she thinks she can do it, she makes you believe she’ll do it.
Now, we did run into some audio issues while recoding this one and tried our best to clean it up but there are a few rough moments we hope you’ll push through, as Beryl drops some incredible perspective. This is our chat with Beryl. Enjoy!

Friday Jan 29, 2021
Ato Boldon and Gary Hall Jr on Elite Speed
Friday Jan 29, 2021
Friday Jan 29, 2021
Pure speed with the masters of sprinting: Gary Hall Jr. and Ato Boldon. ‘The Godfather’ of swimming, Gary Hall Jr. is a ten-time Olympic medalist and former world record holder. Known for his performative techniques on deck, he considers what it takes to be a sprinter and his views on how to enjoy time as a professional athlete. Ato Boldon is a four-time Olympic medal winner and former Athletics World Champion turned NBC Analyst. Joining the forces of swimming and track for the first time, he chats about how to spot a great athlete and the importance of coaching specifically for sprinters. Speed that breaks barriers and the mindset behind the athletes that challenge our limits, Hall and Boldon bring story and experience to their knowledge of speed in an episode that will blow your mind.

Sunday Jan 24, 2021
David Curtiss
Sunday Jan 24, 2021
Sunday Jan 24, 2021
2021 kicks off with youth and speed. We can’t wait to share how this young man is growing our sport, encouraging kids younger and kids of lower rankings to keep at it despite what is thrown at them. We talk about the struggle with Covid and maintaining confidence throughout, and about his race and how it contributes to swimming. Nathan Adrian, Cullen Jones- better be following David as he is about to take your 50 free baton and lead the sport.

Wednesday Dec 30, 2020
Caroline Burckle
Wednesday Dec 30, 2020
Wednesday Dec 30, 2020
Caroline Burckle reached the highest levels in swimming: NCAA champion, Olympic bronze medalist (2008 – 800free relay). But it’s what she’s building outside the pool that may outshine her swimming career. Together with fellow Olympian Rebecca Soni, Burckle runs Rise-Athletes, a mentorship platform where professional athletes work 1:1 with young athletes on mindset development and mental health skills. In this episode we discuss the Rise approach to guiding young athletes, as well as what its like to start and run your own business. We also get into some of Caroline’s experiences working with different coaches and the learning and adaptation process it takes to get coach and athlete on the same page to achieve the best outcome. We talk about her experience with body image and advice for coaches on how to manage interactions with their athletes in the most helpful way. Caroline is charismatic and insightful. She’s up front, and down to earth. A few minutes with Caroline and you know you’re with a high-achiever. You’re going to enjoy this one!

Tuesday Dec 22, 2020
James Gibson, Head Coach of the World's Greatest Swim team?
Tuesday Dec 22, 2020
Tuesday Dec 22, 2020
While James Gibson is currently known for his leadership of the Energy Standard professional swim team, he’s also a former World Champion (2003 – 50BR) and Olympic Finalist (2004 – 100BR). His training squad is not only one of the very few elite teams of professional swimmers in the world, they do something no other pro team does: they practice and compete together as one team. Sounds simple, but this model does not exist in swimming, and what Energy Standard created was the precursor for starting a professional swim league that we now know as the ISL (International Swimming League).
This conversation was recorded the day James learned his team’s travel plans for 2021 might be in peril due to new travel restrictions related to the pandemic – adding another obstacle to the list he and his team have had to navigate in an unprecedented year.
This was a good opportunity to share some laughs and get the inside perspective on how the ISL brass plans to continue improving the league, while also picking the brain of a guy who coaches a diverse collection of the fastest swimmers on the planet. We had a blast chatting with James, and hope you enjoy!

Saturday Dec 19, 2020
Kylie Masse
Saturday Dec 19, 2020
Saturday Dec 19, 2020
2x World Champion and Olympic Bronze medalist Kylie Masse joins us from her base in Toronto as she gets back into Olympic training following her second ISL season and first as team captain of the expansion squad, Toronto Titans. Is the 100 backstroke the deepest, most competitive event in women's swimming? What does it take to win back to back world titles, and prep for the Olympics with a target on your back? Are there actually people who think Canadian bacon is better than real bacon?! This conversation was a blast and hits on so many fun topics with one of the best swimmers in the world today. Enjoy!